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Those who returned from the war either became fatalists or found faith in God. Nowhere could the Fate's hand be found so clearly, so rigidly and unavoidably, like there. I got to experience it myself, and not just once.
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那些从战场上回来的人要么变成宿命论者,要么信了上帝.没有别的任何地方象在战场上那样,“命运”之手会显得那么清晰,那么严厉,那么不可逃避.我亲身体验了,而且还不止一次.
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In the winter of 1942-43 the tank brigade where I then had the honor to serve suffered heavy losses in the fighting for Mozdok. I did not become one of those casualties in that particular case. Fate, foreseeing, as I understand, the probable course of events, made a firm decision at that time to transfer me from my post as a tank's driver/mechanic to another, less deadly, branch of service. ASAP. At any cost. She didn't succeed in that immediately, but She was firm and persistent in reaching the set goal.
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1942、43年冬,我有幸服役的坦克旅在莫兹多克〔Mozdok〕战斗中损失惨重,我没有成为那些伤亡者之一.我认为“命运”预见到了事情以后的进程,当时做出了坚决的决定:不计一切代价,把我从坦克驾驶员兼机械师的位置上转到危险性较小的兵种——火箭炮部队.“她”没有马上就取得成功,但“她”坚定执着地达到了既定的目标.
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One gloomy winter day a tank column, of which our T-34 was also a part, pulled into Levokumskaya Cossack village after a long march. Retreating Germans blew up the bridge over Kuma behind them, and a temporary log crossing constructed by engineers out of whatever they could find presented itself to us as soon as we reached the river bank. After looking it over mistrustfully, our battalion commander asked the engineers' commander:
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"Will a tank be able to cross it? Twenty-five tons?"
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"Have no doubt!" the engineer replied. "Made by a Guards unit! But do it one tank at a time."
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一个阴郁的冬日,一支坦克纵队,我们的T-34也在其中,经过长途行军后进入了一个叫O3eN7YrHH(I C@莱沃昆斯卡亚〔Levokumskaya〕的哥萨克村子.撤退的德军炸毁了他们身后的库马〔Kuma〕河上的桥,但我们一到河岸,出现在我们面前的是一座工兵们就地取材搭成的临时的圆木“桥”.在不信任地查看了该“桥”后,我们的营长问工兵头儿:
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“这玩意儿,坦克能过吗?二十五吨的?”
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“没问题!”工兵头儿回答,“近卫军部队造的!但每次只能过一辆坦克.”
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The first tank crept slowly and carefully over the rolling planking. The second one entered the crossing as carefully, slightly deviating from the central axis, got to the middle, and suddenly, before everyone's eyes, started moving not across the river, but along it, and then crashed into the rushing waters together with the bridge, leaving only the driving wheel on the surface. Its crew was fished out of the ice cold water, but not without some difficulties. We had to dive after the driver. Our tank was to be third.
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第一辆坦克小心翼翼地慢慢“爬”过起伏不平的圆木“桥”,第二辆同样小心地上了“桥”,稍稍偏离了“桥”中心线,到了“桥”中间时突然,在众目睽睽之下,开始横向而不是顺着“桥”的走向移动,并连“桥”一起冲入湍急的河里,水面上只露出主动轮.颇费了一番周折后,乘员们被“捞”出了冰冷的河水.只能另想办法过河,我们的坦克排在第三.
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After an energetic back-and-forth swearing match with the engineers and threats of execution, the battalion commander found some local old man who undertook to point out a ford. After putting the old-timer into his Willys, and having explained to me about my responsibilities as the lead driver, the battalion commander ordered us to follow him.
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在与工兵们费劲地别苗头后,以枪毙相威胁,营长终于找到一个当地老人去找一个坦克可以涉渡的地方.营长把老头带上他的“威利”吉普,告诉我作为领头坦克驾驶员的职责,命令我们跟着他.
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"Don't drive too fast, but don't lag behind either," he said. "If anything is wrong, I'll signal with my flashlight."
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“不要开得太快,但也别磨蹭!”他说,“如果有情况,我会打手电发信号.”
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And so we set out through the unpaved roads along the river. Meanwhile, complete darkness settled. We didn't have headlights after the very first battle, and even if we had them, we still couldn't use them due to the threat from enemy aircraft. That's why I simply followed the jumping blue light of the commander's jeep in the darkness slightly diluted by the treacherous moonlight from behind the clouds, without seeing the road. The column followed me.
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于是我们在沿着河的土路上出发了.此时天已经全黑了,第一次战斗后,我们坦克的大灯就坏了,即使没有坏我们也不能开.因为有敌人的飞机.因此我只能跟着营E("@8p&bqg 1ei长吉普的蓝色跳动的灯光,但云后时隐时现的月光不时使灯光变得模糊不清.看不见路,坦克纵队跟在我的车后面.
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We drove for about ten kilometers in that way. As we found out later, the battalion commander simply didn't notice an insignificant little bridge over a ravine and drove through it without stopping or signaling. Due to this our tank ran into it at high speed and with all its mighty multi-ton inertia. The bridge collapsed at once and without deliberation. The tank hit the ravine's slope with its front armor, turned over with its tracks up, and slid to the bottom.
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就这样我们走了约十公里.事后才发现,营长没有注意到一条峡谷上的一座不起眼的小桥,径直驶过而没有停下或给出信号.因此,我们的坦克以高速冲上小桥,带着可怕的惯性力.小桥应声而塌,坦克的前装甲撞到了峡谷的斜坡,翻了过来履带朝天,并滑到谷底.
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Stunned by the collision, I found myself buried under a pile of 76 mm shells that fell out of their cases, mixed with machine gun magazines, tools, preserves, trophy foodstuffs, a saw, an axe, and various other tank belongings. The acid from overturned batteries was pouring down in thin jets. Everything was illuminated by the ominous signal of their discharge. I was OK, but somewhat bruised. My first thought was: I crushed the crew... The thing is that during marches the crew usually sat not inside, but on top of the gearbox -- a warm spot behind the turret -- and covered themselves with tarpaulin. But it turned out that all of them were alive -- they were thrown forward to the ground when the tank turned over, as if shot from a catapult. Now the commander, Lieutenant Kuts, yelled from somewhere outside:
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"Aria! Are you alive?"
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"Seem to be," I replied. "How are the guys?"
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冲撞使我吃惊不小,我发现自己被埋在一堆从弹箱掉落的七十六毫米炮弹,及机枪弹鼓、工具、果酱、战利品食品、一把锯子、一把斧子,还有其他坦克里的捞什子下面.翻倒的蓄电池的酸性液体一小股一小股地流下来.所有的东西都笼罩在流出的液体带来的不祥气氛之中.我没事只是有点挫伤.我的第一个念头是:我的其他弟兄完了!——在行军中,其他车组成员通常不呆在坦克里面,而是坐在齿轮箱的顶上,炮塔后的一个温暖的地方,并裹盖着防水帆布.但实际上他们都活着没事——坦克翻车时他们被甩到地上,就象被弹弓弹出去一样.车长Kuts中尉在车外喊道:
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“Aria!还活着吗?”
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“好象是,”我回答,“小伙子们怎么样?”
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Then I crawled out through the bottom (which now became the top) hatch and looked around. The view was impressive. The tank stood on its turret with its tracks up. The gun barrel was sticking from below, from the ground. Not once during the entire war have I seen a tank in a more unnatural position. We were looking at our fallen battle Friend in silence.
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我从车底舱门〔现在是在顶上〕爬了出来,四处看了看.所见令我印象深刻:坦克“站”在炮塔上,履带朝天,炮管从下面,地面支着坦克.整个战争期间,我再也没有见过比这处在更加不自然的姿态的坦克了.我们静不作声地瞪着我们的拿大顶的战场上的老朋友.
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The battalion commander appeared immediately, like the devil out of a box. He explained to me in the Russian manner everything he thought about me, and ordered:
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马上营长露面了,就象从盒子里出来的魔?mN@&t n]o:鬼.他以典型的俄国方式告诉我他对我的看法并命令:
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"I'm leaving one vehicle to pull you out. You are to haul your tank up, put everything in order, and follow us by morning. If you don't manage -- I'll have you shot!"
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“我会留下一辆坦克把你拖出来.你必须把坦克翻过来,把一切打理好.到早晨要跟上我们——否则,我毙了你!”
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We didn't bother to explain what we thought of him, and got to business. We dug a way out of the ravine overnight, used the tow tank to first turn our tank to its side, then to its tracks -- with horrible, soul tearing rumbling of all its innards during every time it turned over. Then we unloaded all metal rubble from the inside and attempted to start it with an emergency starter, with compressed air. And this tank, the best tank of the Second World War, started even after such misadventures!
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我们懒得跟他辩解,着手开始干自己的事.我们连夜在峡谷里挖出一条路,用另一辆坦克首先让我们的坦克侧“立”,然后翻正——每次坦克都发出振五脏动六肺的巨大轰响.我们把坦克里的金属零碎都扔出来,并试图用紧急启动器用压缩空气发动坦克.这辆坦克真是第二次世界大战中最好的坦克,在频遭厄运后居然发动了!
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We had one hour left for sleep and food. We moved on when dawn came. Fate's first attempt at removing me from the tank service failed...
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我们还有一个小时吃饭和睡觉.我们在黎明破晓时出发了.“命运”第一次让我脱离坦克部队的努力失败了……
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We pushed hard and successfully forded the river in the marked spot, caught up with our column by midday, reported to the battalion commander, and joined the ranks. All four of us were exhausted to the limit, but I was worst of all. I kept falling asleep irrepressibly in my driver's seat and dreamed of the tank in front. That was dangerous. The lieutenant, seeing my condition, remained inside, cheered me, and kicked me in the back from his seat in the turret from time to time. There was no one to replace me. The commander used his minimal driving practice during wartime training as an excuse, the gunner Kolia Rylin and the radio operator/machine gunner Vereschagin had not been taught this at all. The mandatory mutual replaceability of the crew was lacking completely -- so they just went on lying on the diesel's warm case. And I was suffering alone at the control levers, on top of that getting a stream of ice cold air, pulled in by a ventilator turbine roaring behind my back, in the chest.
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我们紧赶慢赶,并在标示出的地方涉渡过河,中午赶上了部队,向营长报告,回到弟兄们中间.我们四个都疲劳到了极点,尤其是我.我坐在驾驶座上,无法抵挡睡意,眼前的坦克已经仿佛是在梦中.这非常危险.中尉看到我这样的情形,留在车内,逗我,并不时从他在炮塔里的位置用脚踢我的背.没有人可以替代我,车长以极少的驾驶训练和实践为由,炮手科里雅·雷林〔Kolia Rylin〕和无线电员兼机枪手韦列夏金〔Vereschagin〕就没有受过半点有关训练.必要的乘员间的相互可替代性根本就没有.因此他们继续躺在柴油机的温暖的顶板上面.我独自坐在驾驶杆前受罪,还有背后嗡嗡的通风风扇吸入的冰冷空气流不断吹在我的胸前.
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During the very first break, after eating our kasha with Lend Lease tushonka, we found an oil leak in the engine. The fall into the ravine did not pass without consequences. We decided that the leak was insignificant and moved on after tightly wrapping the crack with several layers of insulating tape and wire on top of that.
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在第一次休息时,吃完粥和租借法案肉罐头后,我们发现发动机漏油.掉到峡谷里不可能不留下后遗症.我们认定这并不碍事,于是用几层绝缘带和电线紧紧裹住漏缝.
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Another fifty kilometers later something happened: after a short break the engine wouldn't start. No, it just wouldn't. We called a technician. He crawled inside for a short while trying to turn the turbine with a crowbar and pronounced:
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又走了五十公里后,故障发生了:发动机在短停后再也发动不起来了.它不干了.我们叫来一个技师,他爬进去看了一小会儿试图用一根撬杠转动涡轮,但没有成功:
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"Only a moron could expect that such a tourniquet would hold the oil inside! It all leaked out. Your engine died, it's stuck..."
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"What are we going to do?" the lieutenant asked.
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"The brigade commander will decide what you're going to do. But the tank cannot be repaired in the field, the engine needs to be replaced, we need a repair facility for that. Sit here for now, I'll report it, we'll send something to tow you tomorrow."
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“只有傻子才会相信这样的东西能够止住漏油!都漏出来了.你们的发动机死了,它动不了了……”
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“我们怎么办?”中尉问.
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“旅长会决定你们怎么做,但这坦克在野外无法修理,发动机需要更换,我们需要做这些的修理设备.坐在这儿,我会报告,明天我们会派人来拖的.”
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The column left and we remained alone. Blizzard was whirling in the naked, snow covered steppe. Not a tree, not a bush, only a couple of low sheds could be seen far from the road -- a field camp.
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坦克纵队继续开拔,我们独自留下.暴风雪在被雪覆盖的荒原上空肆虐,没有一棵树、一丛灌木,只有远离路的两座低矮小屋——一个野外露营地.
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It was impossible to sit inside the ice cold tank. We tried to construct something like a cabin by throwing tarpaulin over the gun. We lit a bucket with diesel fuel inside for the perception of warmth. We ate somehow. In a couple of hours we couldn't be recognized from soot.
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呆在冰冷的坦克里是不可能的.我们把防水帆布搭在炮管上,想建个类似棚屋的东西.我们点燃了一个桶里的柴油以取暖,并吃点东西.两小时后,我们让油烟熏得都要认不出来了.
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"So," the lieutenant summarized, "we can't just die out here... Let's go spend the night there," he waved his hand toward the sheds in the distance. "They have a chimney there, this means there is a stove. There's probably also some straw remaining. We'll leave a guard with the vehicle. You need to catch some sleep (he nodded at me). That's why you'll be first to stay an hour and a half on watch -- then I'll send someone to replace you. But after that you'll be resting through the entire night."
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“我说,”中尉提议“我们不能在这儿冻死……我们去那儿过夜.”他朝远处的小屋挥了挥手.“那儿有一个烟囱,就是说有个炉子,也许还有些干草剩着.我们留一个人守着坦克,你需要睡一会儿〔他朝我点了点头〕.因此你站第一班岗,一个半小时,然后我派人来替你.你就可以睡上一觉了.”
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So I remained with the tank with a light machine gun on the shoulder. The time dragged by torturously in the dark. Back and forth. Back and forth. I couldn't lean against the tank -- my eyes would just close. But the replacement didn't arrive after the hour and a half, nor after two hours. Felled by exhaustion, they were apparently dead asleep. I fired a burst from the machine gun -- no effect. I needed to do something, otherwise I would've simply froze to death. And my feet couldn't hold me anymore. I locked the tank and started stumbling through the snow covered steppe toward the sheds. I woke the lieutenant, who was sleeping on the straw, with difficulty and told him about how wrong it was to do things like that... Rylin, barely able to comprehend what happened, was raised from his warm bed and sent outside with the machine gun. I collapsed into his place without undressing and fell asleep immediately.
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于是我留在坦克边,肩上扛了挺轻机枪.黑夜里,时间过得很慢,很折磨人.走来走去,走来走去,我不能靠在坦克上——那样我的眼睛就会马上合上.一个半小时后,换岗的人没有来,两个小时后还没有.他们一定是由于疲劳而睡死:CJ6s_38k1了.我用机枪射了一梭子,但没有反应.我得做些什么,不然会冻死的.我的脚再也撑不动身体了.我锁了坦克,开始蹒跚着穿过覆雪的荒原走向小屋.我使劲摇醒在干草上沉睡的中尉,告诉他这么做是多么不妥……Rylin,还没有完全弄清楚怎么会事,就被从温暖的床上叫起来,派了出去,带着机枪.我倒在他空出的位置上,甚至没有脱衣服,立刻睡着了.
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Rylin stood in the cold wind for a while -- and broke his oath of service...
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Rylin在冷风中站了一会儿,就背叛了他的军人誓言……
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We came out of the shed at dawn, cursing Vereschagin who had slept through his turn. Looked at the road -- the tank was gone. It wasn't there. Stolen. Rylin couldn't be seen either. We found him in the neighboring shed where he peacefully slept while hugging the machine gun. When we explained the situation to him he ran outside as if bitten to check it out. After seeing it for himself, he informed us that, as it turned out, after he had arrived to the location at night and had found the object he was supposed to guard to be missing, he had returned and gone to sleep. In response to the natural question of why he hadn't woken us and why he had gone to sleep in a different shed, he explained that he hadn't wanted to disturb us...
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黎明时分我们走出小屋,一边责备着韦列夏金睡过了他该值的那班岗.朝路上一看——天哪!坦克不见了!它不在那儿,被偷了.Rylin也不见了.当我们在另一间小屋里找到他时,他正抱着机枪平静地睡着.我们告诉了他坦克不见了,他象遭了雷劈似地跑了出去查看.亲眼目睹了发生的一切后,他告诉我们,昨晚他一到岗位,就发现坦克没有了,于是他回来睡觉.在回答为什么没有叫醒我们及为什么在另一间小屋睡觉的问题时,他解释说他只是不想打扰我们……
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This version, despite its utter absurdity, completely relieved him of his guilt, which wasn't small either. That's why he stood his ground firmly and lied unabashedly, looking all three of us in the eye. Since we had nothing except logic to refute this nonsense I, who abandoned my post, turned out to be the next scapegoat in line. And also Lieutenant Kuts as the commander, who was responsible for everything.
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这种说法,尽管极其荒唐,还是完全减轻了他的重重的罪责感.这就是为什么他坚持此说并毫无羞耻地说谎,还直看着我们的眼睛.除了逻辑,我们没有别的来反驳他的谎话.而我离开了我的岗位(驾驶座),成了第二号替罪羊.作为车长Kuts中尉将为所有这一切负责.
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And so we started ambling on the wide Kuban' road, over the frozen wheel ruts, with a feeling of doom and without our belongings. After walking for about ten kilometers in complete silence, we reached the outskirts of a large Cossack village, where we found the tracks of our ill-fated tank. It turned out that the bright technicians arrived at night and found the tank unguarded. They unlocked it with their own key and then towed it away. Of course, they saw the field camp and realized where the crew was, but decided to have a little joke...
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我们开始在宽宽的库班〔Kuban〕的大路上慢慢地寻找,顺着冻住的车轮印,带着末日般的感觉,却没有带我们的装备.悄无声息地走了大约十公里后,我们到了一个较大的哥萨克村子边,在这儿我们发现了那不走运的宝贝的履带.原来这些勤快的技师们夜里就来了,发现坦克无人值守,他们用自己的钥匙打开了坦克,把它拖走了.当然,他们看到了小屋,猜到我们准在那儿,于是决定开个小小的Pi|@vs9 6玩笑……
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This joke, combined with the stubborn lies of our comrade-in-arms and friend Rylin, cost us dearly. The brigade commander, for all our misdeeds, ordered to have Lieutenant Kuts and me put before a court martial and tried to the fullest extent of the wartime law. This was done after a short investigation.
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这个玩笑,连同我们的战友和朋友雷林坚持的谎话,使我们付出了高昂的代价.旅长因为我们的过错,命令将Kuts中尉和我送上军事法庭,接受战时法律的严厉审判.在短暂的调查后,我们接受了审判.
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But that is a completely different and not such a cheerful story, after which I did not return to the tank forces again. Although I resurfaced from this misadventure pretty much alive.
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这是个完全不同的而且远非愉快的故事,审判后我再也没有回到坦克部队.但我还是从这场灾难中恢复了过来.
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This example shows how much inventiveness Fate can use if She wants to transfer a person watched over by Her to another branch of service. Who except Her could use such an amazing collection of accidents for that purpose?
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这个故事说明了当“命运”把她眷顾的人从一个兵种转到另一个时是多么有创造力.除了“她”还有谁能够为了这个目的安排这么多令人吃惊的事件一同发生呢?
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It remains to be added that many years after the war I tried to find out the further fate of the members of my crew. But the Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense did not have such information in its possession. They dissolved in the past without a trace, and only their shadows wander in the thickets of my memory...
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战争结束后许多年,我都在找我那个车组成员的后来的命运.但在国防部的中央档案馆里也没有找到有关的信息.它们在过往岁月里消失得了无痕迹,只有影子依稀留在我记忆中游荡……
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And another thing. Rylin deliberately sacrificed me, he knew that he was destroying me. But didn't he turn out to be a blind instrument of Fate who was protecting me? Everything is relative in this deceptive world.
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另外,Rylin有意牺牲了我,他知道那样做会毁了我.但他不也只是保护着我的“命运”之神的一件不自觉的工具吗?在这个靠不住的世界里,一切都是相对的.
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作者信息   主题: 【卫国战争老兵回忆】Semion Aria4837

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Semion Lvovich, how did the war begin for you?
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I was a student at the Novosibirsk Institute for military transportation engineers. When the war started, our entire class was mobilized. They were bringing us to Moscow, but I didn't get to the front because our train was bombed, I was shell-shocked and placed in a hospital.
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谢缅·里沃维奇,你的战争是怎么开始的?
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当时我是一名新西伯里亚的军事运输学院的学生.战争爆发后,我们整个班都被动员了.他们把我们带到莫斯科,但我们没有上前线,因为铁路被炸毁了.我因炮弹休克症而住了院.
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After the hospital they sent me to the 19th Training Tank Regiment located at Nizhniy Tagil. The regiment consisted of battalions, with each one training tankers of a certain specialty -- one trained tank commanders, another -- loaders, etc. I was put into the battalion that trained driver-mechanics.
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出院后,他们派我到在下塔吉尔的第19坦克训练团.该团由几个营组成,每个营训练一种专门的乘员-一个训练车长,另一个装填手,等等.我是在训练驾驶员/机械师的那个营.
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The training was conducted on real vehicles: there were tanks, we were taught how to drive, communicate with the commander, engine layout, how to service it. I must mention that it was very difficult to start the tank engine in the winter conditions. You had to heat it two hours prior to driving, which meant put a griddle a little smaller than the tank under it, pour diesel into that griddle, and set it on fire. After an hour and half the tank, same as us, would be covered in soot, and we would attempt to start it.
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训练在实车上进行:那儿有坦克,我们被教会如何驾驶,与车长联络,发动机的构造,如何维护.必须指出,在冬天启动坦克发动机是非常困难的.你必须在出发前两小时就暖车,就是在坦克下放一个比坦克略小些的浅平底锅一样的东西,倒入柴油点燃.一个半小时后,坦克,我们也一样,熏得满是油烟,我们就着手发动.
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Mutual replaceability was required of the crew. In reality there was nothing of the sort -- the training was too short, but I did get to fire the gun several times. They also drove us to the training ground, put us in a tank, made us drive through an obstacle course, replace track pieces (repairing the tracks was a very difficult operation). In those two or three months, the length of the training, we participated in assembling tanks at the main assembly line at the factory.
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需要车组成员间能够互换角色 %C;s)eRIe4hJa.但实际上并没有--训练时间太短,但我还是开了几炮.他们还把我们带到训练场,把我们放进一辆坦克,让我们驶过障碍路,更换履带板(修理履带是件很困难的工作).在受训的两、三个月里,我们还在工厂里的主流水线上装配坦克.
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Did they teach you how to bail out of the tank?
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他们教你如何逃出坦克了吗?
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Well, what could they teach us? You simply opened the hatch and jumped out. Besides, there was a hatch in the bottom, you could leave through it without the enemy seeing you. Basically, no training was required there.
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他们能教什么?你只要打开舱盖,跳出来.另外,在车底还有一个舱盖,你可以从那儿出来,敌人看不见.基本上,没有什么这方面的训练.
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I've read that tankers cut off pockets from their jackets so that they wouldn't get caught in the protruding parts of hatches.
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我读到过坦克兵们把夹克上的口袋拆掉,以免不会被舱盖上的突出物钩住?
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We didn't cut anything off, I had a good jacket. What could you get caught by in there? The hatch was smooth, with rounded edges, there were no difficulties in getting in or out through it. Moreover, when you stood up from the driver's seat, you were already outside from your waist up.
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我们没有拆掉任何东西,我有一件很好的夹克.你怎么会在那儿钩住呢?舱盖很光滑,边角圆润,进出毫不困难.还有,当你从驾驶座上站起来,腰以上就已经在车外了.
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After the training they loaded us on a train, together with our T-34's, and sent us to the front. For some reason, by the route through the Central Asia. We were transported from Krasnovodsk to the Caucasus through the Caspian Sea, on a ferry. Wind blew the tarpaulin off our tank on the way. I must mention that life in a tank without the tarpaulin was hard. It was essential -- we used it to cover ourselves when sleeping, ate on it, covered the tank with it when entraining, otherwise the tank would be filled with water inside. Those were tanks built during the time of war. There wasn't any kind of padding in the top hatch, and the driver's hatch had some kind of padding, but it couldn't keep the water out. So it was bad without the tarpaulin. And so I had to steal a sailcloth from a depot, but there's no reason to talk about it -- this isn't a combat episode, but rather one from the military criminal field.
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训练完成后,他们把我们装上火车,连同我们的T-34,派往前线.由于某种原因,走的是中亚这条路线.我们从克拉斯诺沃茨克(Krasnovodsk),乘一艘渡轮经里海,到达高加索.途中风吹走了坦克上的防水帆布.必须指出,在坦克里生活,没有防水帆布是很艰难的.它不可或缺--睡觉时我们盖它,在它上面吃饭,在坐火车时盖着坦克,不然坦克里都是水.那些都是战时造的坦克,车顶舱盖里没有软衬,驾驶员舱盖多少有一点,但不防水.因此没有防水帆布很难受.我只能从一个仓库里偷了块帆布,没有理由谈这个--这不是个战斗插曲,而是军事犯罪行为.
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We got to the Northern Caucasus. There we participated in fighting for Mozdok as a part of the 2nd Tank Brigade. Then we were transferred to the 225th Tank Regiment that participated in combat in the area of Mineral'nye Vody and then in Kuban'.
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我们到了北高加索,在那儿我们作为第2坦克旅一部参加了莫兹多克(Mozdok)战斗.然后我们转属第225坦克团,参加了 Mineral'nye Vody地区的战斗,接着是在库班.
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Was the tank's transmission reliable?
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坦克的变速传动可靠吗?
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T-34's transmission was rather peculiar. It didn't have a driving shaft. The driving gears were attached directly to the secondary shaft of the gearbox. That's why the gearbox had to be centered ideally with respect to the crankshaft -- this was done with special instruments. It was attached firmly because even a micron cam led to the destruction of the entire gearbox. Overall, the tank's design was very successful. For example, we survived a most severe accident -- the tank turned over its turret, but it still started afterward.
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T-34的传动很特别,没有主传动轴.主动齿轮直接联到齿轮箱的第二轴,这就是为什么齿轮箱必须放在中间,这对曲轴来说很理想--都需要特殊的工具来做.连接非常坚固,因为一个极小的凸轮都会导致整个齿轮箱的损坏.总的来说,T-34的设计很成功.例如,我们经历了一次最严重的事故--坦克兜底翻,但还是能够发动起来.
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Did you have radios in your tank?
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你的坦克里有无线电台吗?
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Yes, a radio located at the right side of the hull was used to communicate with the unit commander. Internal communications were over the telephone, but it worked horribly, like pretty much everything built during the time of war. That's why we communicated with our feet, that is the tank commander's boots were placed on my shoulders, he pushed either my left or my right shoulder, and I turned the tank accordingly either left or right. When I worked as a lawyer, the manager of our office was Krapivin, a Hero of the Soviet Union, former commander of a tank regiment. When I told him how we had fought the enemy with our boots, he said: "Oh! Now I believe that you're really a tanker." Besides that, there were absolutely horrible triplexes on the driver's hatch. They were made of disgusting yellow or green plastic that gave a completely distorted, wavy picture. It was impossible to make out anything through such triplex, especially in the rocking tank. That's why we conducted war with hatches opened to palm width.
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有的,在车体右侧有一部,用来与部队指挥官的联系.车内通讯是通过电话,但那很糟糕,象许多战时造的东西一样.这就是为什么我们用脚来交流,即车长的靴子搁在我的肩上,他踢我的左肩时,我就将坦克左转,反之亦然.当我作律师时,我们办公室的头是克拉皮温(Krapivin),一个"苏联英雄",以前是个坦克团长.当我告诉他我们如何用靴子与敌人作战后,他说:"噢!现在我相信你真的是个坦克兵了."除此,在驾驶员舱盖里有糟糕之至的夹层玻璃,它们由讨厌的黄色或绿色塑料制成,通过它们看到的东西扭曲晃动.通过这样的夹层玻璃不可能看清楚任何东西,尤其在坦克摇动时.因此我们通常在战斗时把舱盖打开一掌宽.
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In your opinion, what were the most vulnerable places for the enemy's artillery fire in a T-34?
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Side armor.
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你认为面对敌人的炮火,T-34最脆弱的地方是哪儿?
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侧装甲.
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If a track was damaged during fighting, what did you have to do: leave the tank, try to repair the track?
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Try to repair the track. That was not serious damage. We always had spare track pieces, they were attached to sides and in reality served as additional armor. Track replacement was not a very complicated operation.
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如果战斗中一条履带受损,你们怎么办:离开坦克,还是修理履带?
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试着修理履带,那不算很严重的损坏.我们总是有备用履带板,它们在车体侧面,实际上作为附加装甲.替换履带板不算是很复杂的工作.
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What weaknesses in a T-34 can you single out?
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Complete lack of crew comfort. I have been inside American and English tanks. Their crews operated in more comfortable conditions: the tanks were painted in light colors on the inside, the seats were semisoft, with armrests. There was nothing like that on a T-34. Care for crew comfort was limited only to basics. It's hard for me to judge the rest, I'm not an engineer.
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你能指出T-34的弱点吗?
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乘员极不舒服.我曾经置身美国和英国坦克里.他们的乘员在更舒适的条件下操作:坦克内部漆成淡颜色,半软座椅,还有靠手.没有比T-34更糟的,对乘员的舒适的考虑被降到最低限度.其他的我不好评判,因为我不是工程师.
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You probably had to perform some repairs on the tank? What were the most unreliable parts: gearbox, transmission?
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I hadn't encountered any significant defects in the tank's design or technology. The tanks were good, reliable.
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你可能得在坦克里做些修理?什么是最不可靠的部分:齿轮箱,传动?
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我还没有遇到过坦克设计或技术方面的任何重要的缺陷.坦克很好,可靠.
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There is an opinion that English Matildas with gasoline engines burned much easier than ours with diesel engines?
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American tanks also had gasoline engines. They burned like torches. So, on one side -- caring for the crew comfort, on the other -- neglect for their defense. How can it be explained? It's hard for me to say. Besides that, their base was narrow, so they rolled to their sides on slopes. They had strange defects, incomprehensible.
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有人认为英国人的使用汽油机的"马蒂尔达"坦克比我们使用柴油发动机的坦克更容易着火?
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美国坦克也用汽油机,它们烧起来象火炬一样.所以一方面,考虑了乘员的舒适.另一方面,却忽视了他们的保护.这如何解释?我说不好.除此,他们的坦克车体较窄,在斜坡地容易倾覆.他们的坦克有些奇怪的缺陷,无法理解.
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Was the T-34's electrical equipment reliable?
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Yes. The armament was of course insufficient because the two machine guns on such tank did not provide an all-round field of fire, since both of them were pointed forward. Although, you could turn the turret, but that was an overkill.
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T-34的电子设备可靠吗?
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是的.武器显然不足,这种坦克上的两挺机枪并不能提供全向的火力,因为它们都朝车前,虽然你可以旋转炮塔,但那太大动干戈了.
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Was the tank's machine gun an effective weapon? Was it used often?
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Fairly often. One machine gun was in the turret, the loader fired it, the other one was attached to a ring mount in the hull. It was operated by the radio operator/machine gunner. The turret one was also on a ring mount, but its mount was with a very small angle of horizontal traverse, but the lower machine gun was on a very good mount -- it could be turned 45, or maybe even 60 degrees, plus it could be easily detached.
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坦克上的机枪是有效的武器吗?经常用吗?
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经常使用.一挺在炮塔里,由装填手操纵.另一挺装在车体的一个球形枪座上,由无线电员兼机枪手操作.炮塔里的机枪也是装在球形枪座上,但其枪座的水平射角很小.但车体里的机枪的枪座很棒--可以转四十五度,也许可能是六十度.还有很容易拆下来.
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Did you have a sidearm?
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No, they didn't give them out to us. After all, I detached the machine gun from its mount. No, apparently we didn't have any. Otherwise I would've remembered it.
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你有随身武器吗?
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没有,他们没有给过我们.一般我把机枪从枪座上拆下来.我们肯定没有任何随身武器,否则我会记得的.
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What was the recommendation in case you encountered enemy tanks? Engage them, avoid combat?
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I couldn't say that now.
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遭遇敌人坦克时,你们得到的命令是什么?与它们交战,还是避开?
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现在我不能说.
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But you've never encountered either enemy tanks or SPGs?
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No, I've never encountered them. We encountered anti-tank artillery, machine guns, even anti-aircraft guns. In our regiment, during the time I was in it, maybe 12 tanks were destroyed.
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但你们从没有遇到过敌人的坦克或自行火炮吗?
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没有,我从来没有遇到过.我们遇到过反坦克炮、机枪,甚至高射炮.当我在的时候,我们团大概有十二辆坦克被摧毁.
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Could the crew manage to bail out when a tank was destroyed?
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Fifty-fifty. If a shell got inside the tank, then everyone got torn to shreds, but if it was a tangential hit, or the shell hit the engine compartment and the tank burst into flames, then the crew would start bailing out. The losses were huge, it was a very rare occurrence that a tanker would got through the entire war and remain alive. The losses there were about the same as in the fighter aviation. The lifetime for fighter pilots at the front was maximum 40-60 days. It was close to that in tank units, but still there were people there that had fought a year or two.
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当坦克被击毁时,乘员们能够逃出来吗?
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一半的机会.如果炮弹进入坦克内,那每个人都会成为碎片.但如果是切向命中,或打中动力室,坦克起火,乘员就要开始逃离.损失很大,很少有坦克"活"过整个战争.损失差不多跟战斗机部队一样.战斗机飞行员在前线的"寿命"是最多40-60天.这接近坦克部队,但还是有些人战斗了一、两年的.
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Were there such aces in your unit?
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Yes. I remember one name -- Sustavniov. He was a driver, all covered in medals. He was considered to be a competent and lucky tanker.
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你们部队有这样的王牌吗?
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是的,我记得一个名字--苏斯塔夫尼奥夫(Sustavniov).他是个驾驶员,挂满了勋章.他被认为是一个有能力的幸运的坦克手.
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What characteristics of a tank seem most important in a combat environment?
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Well, everything's important, maneuverability, speed, it's hard to single something out here. First of all, of course, survivability, impenetrability, protection.
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在战场环境里坦克的什么特性最重要?
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任何东西都重要,机动性、速度,很难挑出什么.当然,首先是生存力、防弹性、防护.
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Was German infantry well protected against tanks?
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Same as Russian infantry. What defense does an infantryman have? A trench. He digs himself into the ground and sits there. If he runs he can't do anything against tanks. Their accoutrements, equipment were significantly more substantial, they were well prepared for war. But everything was in a horrible state with us, the army was not ready for the war, neither in strength nor equipment. Everything was done on the move, on corpses. I saw with my own eyes how we stupidly fucked up the first half of the war. Our population is huge -- cannon fodder was plentiful. If our country wasn't so big, the Germans would've won the war easily.
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德国步兵面对坦克有良好的保护吗?
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和俄国步兵差不多.步兵有什么防护呢?战壕,他挖壕并坐在那儿.如果他跑开,他没有什么办法对付坦克.他们的军服、装备更加坚固,对战争准备得更好些.但我们的所有方面都很糟,军队没有做好战争准备,无论装备还是兵力.什么都是在运动中完成,在尸体上.我亲眼看到我们在战争的前半程是他妈的怎么愚蠢.我们人口众多--炮灰足够多.如果我们国家不那么大的话,德国人会轻易赢得战争.
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They say that tanks fight along roads, is that true?
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I've never really thought about that, but in general, of course, tanks avoid impassable terrain. All this talk of how tanks drive through walls, knock down trees -- all that is rubbish. Apparently, it does correspond to reality -- tanks do fight along roads. Because a tank can overturn in a ravine or get stuck in a swamp. There is no driving in the woods for a tank, it can mow down sparse vegetation, of course, but I've never seen a tank push through brick walls like they show in the movies.
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他们说坦克是沿着道路作战的,真的吗?
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我从来没有认真考虑过这个问题.但一般而言,当然,坦克避免不能X!&u(5I/|UfxCb通过的地形.所有那些谈到坦克驶过墙,撞到树的都是瞎扯.显然,这种说法符合实际--坦克确实沿路作战.因为坦克在峡谷里会翻车或陷入沼泽.在树林里坦克无法行驶.当然,它能够推倒稀松的植物,但我从来没有看到过象电影里那样坦克穿过砖墙.
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Did you try to take terrain into account when driving?
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I said it's not a good idea to go into ravines! I can tell you a story that happened to me in the Northern Caucasus. I was driving on a mountain road, but then it narrowed, one of the tracks of my tank went a little to the right of the road and the entire tank started sliding downward. It's a good thing there was no precipice there, just a rocky 45 degree slope. I slid on that slope to the very bottom of the gorge. Then they barely pulled me out. And what if it had been a precipice there?!
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你驾驶时考虑地形吗?
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我说过把坦克开到峡谷里不是个好主意!我可以告诉你在北高加索发生的一个故事,我在一条山路上行驶,路变窄了,我的坦克的一条履带有一些出了路的右边,整个坦克开始往下滑.幸好那儿没有悬崖,只是四十五度的岩石坡,我的坦克一直滑到峡底.然后他们把我拉了出来,但如果那儿是个悬崖呢?!
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Did Germans set mines on roads?
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They did.
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德国人在路上埋地雷吗?
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是的.
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Did you have mine-sweeps?
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No, there were no mine-sweeps in tank units at that time.
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你们有扫雷器吗?
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没有,当时坦克部队里没有扫雷器.
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Did Germans have anti-tank grenades?
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Anti-tank mines -- yes, I've encountered those; I've never seen infantry use anti-tank grenades. Our Soviet anti-tank grenades -- those were simply bundles of regular grenades.
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德国人有反坦克手榴弹吗?
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反坦克地雷--是的,我碰到过.我从来没有看到步兵使用反坦克手榴弹.我们苏联的反坦克手榴弹--那些只是成捆的普通手榴弹.
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And mines? How did you encounter them, you just saw them?
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Well, I didn't drive on them, I saw them. They are approximately the same as now, like plates.
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地雷呢?你怎么碰到的,只是看" Jo]6 B 6-$b见了吗?
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啊,我没有驶过地雷,只是看见了.他们和现在的差不多,碟状的.
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Were you ever hit?
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Yes, but the armor wasn't pierced. When a shell hits there is a ringing like inside a bell, and you go deaf.
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你被击中过吗?
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是的,但没有击穿装甲.当弹丸击中时,你就象在一个敲着的钟里,耳朵都要聋了.
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Did the armor crumble during such hits?
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No, the armor was viscous.
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这样击中时,装甲碎了吗?
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没有,装甲粘性很好.
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How did you determine if a tank could drive over a bridge? Who was responsible for that?
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Well, who determined that? A specialist determined that in the engineer troops, how much the vehicle had to weigh, was it possible to drive it through, but in the frontline conditions all that was primitive, everything was simply estimated.
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如果坦克要过桥,你如何决定?谁负责?
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谁决定?一个工兵部队的专家来定,车辆多重,能否通过,但在前线条件下,所有这些只能是估计出来的.
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Can it be said that you were lucky to fight in a T-34?
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Yes, you can say that.
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能否说你在一辆T-34里战斗很幸运?
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是的,你可以这样说.
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What can you tell us about KV?
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There were very small quantities of KV tanks. They were heavy, all bridges collapsed under them. They were very unsuccessful tanks.
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关于KV,你能告诉我们些什么?
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KV坦克的数量非常少.它们很重,所有的桥梁都会被压塌.它们是很不成功的坦克.
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In '42, could the 76mm gun of a T-34 successfully deal with all existing targets?
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During that period, yes.
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在1942年,I-34的76毫米炮能对付所有现存的目标吗?
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那段时间,可以.
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You write that you didn't have headlights after the very first combat. They were simply destroyed by bullets?
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Of course, they were swept off by shell fragments.
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你写道在第一次战斗后就没有车灯了,它们是被子弹打坏的吗?
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当然,它们被弹片炸坏.
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You had a relatively high education. After all, you studied at an institute when the war began. Why did you become a driver and not a tank commander?
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I didn't have an officer's rank.
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你受过相对高的教育.战争爆发时,你在一所学院里学习,你为什么成为驾驶员而不是坦克车长?
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我不是军官.
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How did you fire, on the move or after short stops?
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After short stops.
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你们怎么射击,运动中还是短停?
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短停.
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Who watches the tank's ammo? What is the procedure for its replenishment? Was there some kind of a fixed rate for its expenditure?
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What rate? No, you would simply shoot as you needed. I don't know who watches that, probably the tank commander. And what would you watch? The ammo was simply replenished as it was spent. That's all. There weren't any rates of expenditure.
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谁管坦克的弹药?弹药补充的程序是什么?有没有一个设定的消耗率?
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什么率?没有,只要需要就射击.我不知道谁管那个,可能是车长.你照管什么呢?弹药用光后就补充,就这样.没有什么消耗率.
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What was your task most often: infantry support, anti-tank actions, suppression of enemy artillery?
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Judging by the fact that infantry constantly rode with us, apparently it was infantry support infantry rode on top of our tanks. There was no unbroken front line in the Northern Caucasus, and the fighting was conducted in raids. But in general, such questions should be addressed to the officers. Soldiers weren't really let into all these tactical matters. Soldiers had a purely technical function.
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你们最经常的任务是什么:支援步兵?反坦克作战?压制敌炮兵?
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从步兵常搭乘我们的坦克来看,显然是支援步兵,他们就坐在坦克顶上.在北高加索没有连续的战线,战斗经常是袭击的形式.但一般而言,这种问题应该提给军官,士兵是不允许参与这些战术问题的.士兵们的工作纯粹是技术性的.
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You tank was never destroyed, thank God?
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Not mine.
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感谢上帝,你的坦克从来没有被击毁过?
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没有.
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What was your speed during combat?
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We drove at substantial speed during combat, always 45-50 kilometers per hour.
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战斗中你的速度是多少?
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战斗中我们的速度很快,总是每小时45-50公里.
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Did you ever fire indirectly?
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No.
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你间接射击过吗?
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没有.
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Did you ever dig a trench for your tank?
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Yes.
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你为坦克挖过工事吗?
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是的.
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Did they give you soldiers for that?
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We dug ourselves. We could manage it in maybe three hours because, as a rule, we didn't dig on flat ground, we tried to dig some sort of an earth wall which would partially reduce the effort required. "Katiushas" were also driven into trenches in initial positions, but not in firing positions.
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他们派士兵给你挖工事吗?
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我们自己挖.我们可以在大约三小时里完成.因为照规定,我们不在平地挖,我们挖成类似土墙的样子,以减轻工作量."喀秋莎"也会开到堑壕里,在起始阵地,但不是在发射阵地里.
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"Katiushas" always had an initial position, then they drove into the firing position. Was that so?
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Yes. One salvo and back.
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"喀秋莎"都有起始阵地,然后驶入发射阵地,是这样吗?
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是的,一次齐射再回来.
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Were you ever attacked by the enemy air force?
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Not while we were in the Northern Caucasus. Then I had encounters with aviation when I fought in a "Katiusha" unit. I got the full range of services from my encounters with their aviation. But there, in the Northern Caucasus, Germans didn't have any significant numbers of aircraft.
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你遭到敌机攻击过吗?
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我们在北高加索时没有.后来在"喀秋莎"部队遇到过飞机,各种各样的飞机.但在那儿,北高加索,德国人没有多少飞机.
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What do you mean by the full range of services?
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Well, I was hit by the mass bombing and by strafing raids. I saw attacks by German planes, those probably weren't "Messers" but rather "Heinkels", which flew over our formations near towns, almost hitting chimneys.
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"各种各样"是指什么?
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我们遭到过大规模轰炸和对地扫射.我看到过德国飞机的攻击,那些可能不是"梅塞",而可能是"亨克尔",他们飞过我们在城市附近的编队,几乎碰到烟囱.
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Were they shot at, like they show in the movies?
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Well, if it flew low, you didn't have time to shoot -- it would rush past you at huge speed. But we fired.
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I didn't serve for long in the tank forces -- from October '42 through February, or maybe January '43. After that I was court-martialed for an accident with my tank, and I didn't return to that branch of service again. After the penal company, I found myself in a "Katiusha" unit, where I served the rest of the war as a spotter for an artillery battalion.
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朝他们射击吗?就象在电影里那样.
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如果他们飞得低,你没有足够的时间射击--它以很高速度冲过,但我们开火了.在坦克部队,我服役的时间不长-1942年10月到1943年2月,也许是一月.那以后,我因坦克事故被送上军事法庭,再也没有回到坦克部队.离开惩戒连后,我到了一支"喀秋莎"部队,并作为一名炮兵营的观察员度过了战争的余下岁月.
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After you joined the Guards mortar unit, did you become a spotter immediately?
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I was a motorcycle driver for some time, a messenger with the regimental HQ. Basically, they chose to overlook my unauthorized appearance because they had a motorcycle, but no driver for it. That's why they made me the driver of the motorcycle, but after two-three months the motorcycle perished -- it was shot up on the move, but it wasn't me driving it. After that I was transferred as a spotter to the battalion.
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你到近卫迫击炮部队后,马上成了一名观察员吗?
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一段时间我是一名摩托车手,一名团部通信员.他们忽视了我的以前的行为,因为他们有一K`EuB})i*E6辆摩托车,但没有驾驶员.这就是为什么他们让我当摩托车手,但两、三个月后,摩托车毁了--在行驶中被击中,但不是我在驾驶.那以后我就成了一名营的观察员.
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What were the functions of an artillery battalion spotter?
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We chose hills, built an observation post, installed a stereoscopic telescope, observed the enemy, prepared target data for the officers. We didn't go behind enemy lines.
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炮兵营的观察员的作用是什么?
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我们选择小山,建立观察站,架起一架体视式望远镜,观察敌人,为军官准备目标数据.我们没有深入敌后.
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Did you make the necessary calculations?
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No, the spotter was responsible for target acquisition, measured angles, prepared data, and shouted it out to the officer, and he would sit with a mapcase and a stencil, use trigonometric calculations (there were rather complicated trigonometric calculations) to prepare data for the salvo. But I knew how to do it, and could replace him if required.
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你做必要的计算吗?
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不,观察员负责目标获取,量角度,准备数据,大声告诉军官,军官坐在地图箱边,拿着一块模板,用三角函数计算器(那种非常复杂的函数计算器)准备齐射的数据.但我知道怎么做,必要时可以代替他.
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In general, were observation posts selected on our territory or on neutral ground, how was it?
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On our ground, behind the line of our forces. We rarely climbed smokestacks, mills -- that was risky because those points, as a rule, were closely watched by the enemy. They tried to shoot at them just in case, and it wasn't by accident.
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一般而言,观察站是选在我方土地上还是中间地区?是怎么样的?
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在己方地区,在我们部队的战线后面.我们很少爬到烟囱,磨坊上--那太冒险.因为那些地方一般都被敌人密切监视,他们有时向那儿射击,不是偶然的.
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Did snipers bother you?
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Of course, there were snipers. They used snipers and artillery, knocked down those reference points any way they could. So we usually dug ourselves into the ground on our hills.
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狙击手对你们有妨碍吗?
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当然,有狙击手.他们用狙击手和炮兵,以一切手段敲掉那些参考点.因此我们通常在己方的山上挖战壕.
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Which units did you have?
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We had M-8 and M-16, installed on Studebakers.
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你们有什么装备?
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我们有M-8和M-16,装在Studebaker车上.
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Did you encounter German rocket artillery?
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Germans started using it only toward the very end of the war. We encountered German rocket mortars for the first time only in Hungary. Their units, so-called "Vaniushas", had barrels, they made a chilling howling sound. And units of the type that we had we only saw in Austria for the first time. They copied our "Katiushas", but did it with German soundness. The launch racks were installed on a light tank. One person sat in it who drove this vehicle to direct firing position, he didn't have any data for firing, the aiming was done with an optical sight, he aimed it himself, fired, made a U-turn, and left. But our "Katiushas" fired from far away, they were aimed like regular artillery. The data for firing was calculated with a complicated trigonometric table, corrected for terrain. So Germans were way behind us in this business.
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你们遇到过德军的火箭炮部队吗?
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德国人只是到了战争的最后才开始使用.我们在匈牙利才第一次遇到德国的火箭迫击炮.他们的东西,叫"瓦奴莎"(Vaniushas,德国人仿苏联的"喀秋莎"而起的名字--译注),有定向管,发出冷嗖嗖的哀嚎声.我们看到的这种武器首先是在奥地利,他们模仿我们的"喀秋莎",但用他们德国式的方法.发射架装在轻型坦克上,一个人坐在里面,把它开到直接发射的位置,他没有任何发射的参数,瞄准用一具光学瞄准具,他自己瞄准,发射,然后做一个U形转弯,离开.但我们的"喀秋莎"是从远距离发射,她们象常规的炮兵那样瞄准.发射诸元通过一个复杂的三角函数表计算出来,根据地形修正.因此在这方面,德国人远落在我们后面.
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Was dispersion of shells significant?
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The dispersion was rather significant, but we learned how to fight it. A shell had a tail unit so that it would start spinning in flight. But dispersion was still greater than artillery, and that's why we fired by quadrants and not at specific targets. Or we assumed that given a large number of shells one of them would hit a point target.
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火箭弹的散布很大吗?
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射弹散布确实很大,但我们学会了如何对付.火箭弹有一个弹尾单元,因此可以在飞行中旋转,但散布还是比火炮大,因此我们对象限射击,而不对特定的目标.或者我们假设只要有大量的火箭弹,总有一发能击中点目标的.
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Have you seen "Katiushas" fire over open sights?
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Yes, but very rarely because it was risky, and Katiushas were valuable. After all, a Katiusha completely unmasks itself when firing, it raises a large pillar of smoke. That's why we tried to fire only during the dark time. If we fired during the day, the probability of enemy hitting our position increased. That's why Katiushas didn't have stationary firing positions. They had shelters where they stood, and from which they drove out to the firing position. They left immediately after each salvo, so that there wouldn't be time for the enemy to hit them. Also, as a rule, we fired right from the wheels, without using the required supports.
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你见过"喀秋莎"在视野开阔的地方发射吗?
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是的.但很少,因为这样太冒险,而"喀秋莎"是很珍贵的.毕竟,"喀秋莎"发射时是完全暴露的,且产生很多烟,这就是为什么我们只在黑暗中发射.如果我们在白天发射,敌人击中我们的机会就会增加.这就是为什么"喀秋莎"没有固定的发射阵地.它们停下来时有掩体,然后从那儿开到发射阵地.每次齐射后,迅速离开,因此敌人没有足够时间打中它们.还有,我们直接依靠车轮支撑发射,而几乎不用要求的附加支撑.
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When you were in the Guards mortars, did you have anti-aircraft cover?
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No.
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当你在近卫迫击炮部队时,有高射炮掩护吗?
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没有.
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And our fighter aircraft?
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Well, fighters don't provide air cover for a given battery or even a regiment of Katiushas. They cover a sector of the front, cover important tactical installations, and we had a separate regiment. It was thrown this way and that. Sometimes they would just throw separate battalions. Katiusha had tremendous firepower, so they would even use separate batteries to fire a salvo.
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我们的战斗机呢?
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战斗机不提供空中掩护,给一个特定的"喀秋莎"连、甚至团.他们掩护前线的一个地段,掩护重要的战术设施.我们是一个独立的团,一会儿在这,一会儿在那.有时他们甚至派出单独的营."喀秋莎"巨大的R*ESJf5GKbX]火力.此他们甚至用连进行齐射.
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How much time between salvos was needed to reload a Katiusha?
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Not much at all. Maybe 15-20 minutes. A Katiusha crew consisted of 5 men. They managed quickly -- loaded and then, right before firing, inserted squibs into the shells.
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在齐射之间重新装弹需要多少时间?
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不很久.可能15-20分钟。一辆"喀秋莎"通常有五个人,他们动作很快--装填,然后在发射前,给火箭弹装上点火管.
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Travel assignment
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51st Guards Mortar Regiment
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Dec. 15 1943
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Travel assignment
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To Guards Senior Sergeant S.L. Aria
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Upon the receipt of this, you are to go to Malaya Belozubka, Briansk,
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Veseloe, Melitopol' on a service assignment
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Justification: order from the unit commander
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Length of the trip 15 days, from 15 Dec. 1943 to 30 Dec. 1943.
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Report your departure
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Valid only when presented with identification papers
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/Red Army document/
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51st GKMP commander Guards Major Gribovskiy
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Did you ever fire a second salvo from the same spot?
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It happened, but rarely. Usually we tried to fire and leave. We preferred to drive away and load somewhere behind a hillock than fire again from the same spot.
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你们从同一位置发射过两次吗?
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有时,但非常少.通常我们发射后就转移.我们更喜欢开到小山丘后面再装填,然后回到原位发射.
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Were your losses heavy?
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In our regiment? Depends on what you compare them to. Compared to tank units or fighter aviation our losses were not large at all. But in general, we had constant personnel attrition. In two years that I spent in the regiment, its complement was renewed by about 50 percent. We had men killed, wounded all the time. We mostly suffered losses from air raids.
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你们的损失大吗?
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我们团?这要看和谁比.和坦克部队及战斗机部队比,我们的损失一点也不大.但总的来说,我们经常有人员消耗.在我在团里的两年中,人员换了约百分之五十,我们不时有人阵亡,受伤.主要是空袭而致.
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Did you obey the rules of maskirovka during marches?
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Yes, absolutely. For example, during the dark times vehicles would drive only with blue lights. Then, without fail, the units would be camouflaged with branches and nets. We preferred to stop in orchards if there were no forests. In general, maskirovka was followed, they watched for that diligently.
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在行军时你们遵守马斯基洛夫卡(maskirovka)条例吗?
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是的,绝对这样.比如在夜间,车辆只开蓝灯.所有车都以树枝和网伪装.如果没有树林,我们喜欢呆在果园里.总之"马斯基洛夫卡"被完全执行,他们很注意这个.
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Was there a special person watching that everyone obeyed the rules of maskirovka, or you did it yourselves?
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No, regular commanders were responsible for that, there was no special person. Commanders watched that themselves because if the absence of maskirovka was found out they would find themselves in trouble.
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是否有专人监督每个人执行马斯基洛夫卡条例,还是靠自觉?
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没有,一般的军官负责这个,没有专人.军官自己会做的,因为如果发现没有遵守马斯基洛夫卡条例,他们自己会有麻烦的.
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Did you, as a spotter, encrypt the information transmitted?
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It was primitive, like everywhere. The commanders were called by numbers instead of names, ammo -- some vegetables. But the radio communications were encrypted, of course. You won't get a lot of information out of me because I was a soldier, all this reached me very irregularly. I can tell you a funny story from the peace time. After the war I worked as a lawyer in the Krasnopolianskiy district, and they gave me, as a demobilized soldier, a plot of land to build a house. The majority of that land was given to generals for construction, and the remaining small plots were distributed to simple folks. That's why I was surrounded by generals' plots, and as a result, I acquired acquaintances among my neighbors-generals. Once I was invited to some dinner at a general's . We sat at the table, and my neighbor to the right was a very stately man, handsome, portly. And so, I was pouring him vodka, he was spooning salad onto my plate, the usual table talk, tittle-tattle. And as it often happens, we reached the topics of the war, and it turned out that both of us had fought, and moreover, we had followed approximately the same route all the time. He asks me: "What army did you fight in?" I said: "I fought in the 44th." He said: "And I was in the 44th. Who did you serve as?" I said: "Well, I was a soldier. And you?" "I was its commander." That was Lieutenant General Mel'nik, commander of the 44th Army. I told him: "Kondrat Semenych, it's a pity we didn't drink together back then!"
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作为一个观察员,你是否给传递的信息加密?
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很原始,象其他地方一样.指挥员以数字称呼,而不是名字.弹药--用蔬菜的名字.但电台通讯当然是加密的.你从我这儿得不到许多信息,因为我是当兵的,这些传到我这儿都是不正常的.我告诉你一个和平时期的有趣的故事.战后,我在克拉斯诺波连斯基(Krasnopolianskiy)地区当律师,作为退伍士兵,他们给了我一块地造房子.那块地的大部分分给了将军们造房,剩余的小地块给了小不喇子.因此我家就被将军的府邸包围,结果我认识了我的那些将军邻居.有一次我被邀请去一位将军家吃饭,我们坐在餐桌边,我右边坐的是一位很体面的人,英俊,讨人喜}-@'thjfrM^oZXgn欢.因此,我灌他伏特加,他往我的盘子里加色拉,谈一些餐桌边的话题.随着话题的深入,我们谈到了战争,发现我们都打过仗,甚而每次走的地方都一样.他问我:"你在哪个集团军?"我说:"我在第44集团军",他说:"我也是,你是什么职衔?""我是士兵,你呢?""我是集团军司令."他是梅尔尼克(Mel'nik)少将,第44集团军司令.我说:"孔德拉特·谢梅尼奇(Kondrat Semenych),真可惜那时我们没有一起喝一杯!"
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Did you ask him about Balaton?
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No, he wasn't the commander then. He had some troubles during the fighting in Ukraine, I think he was relieved of his post. Although he did remain in the 3rd Ukrainian Front, he wasn't an army commander anymore.
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你问过他有关巴拉顿湖吗?
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没有,当时他不是司令了.在乌克兰作战时,他遇到了些麻烦.我想他被撤了.虽然还呆在乌克兰第三方面军,但不再是集团军司令了.
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What were your relations with civilians in the liberated countries?
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Varied greatly. From almost brotherly relations in Bulgaria, for example, to harsh animosity in Hungary. Hungarians thought of us with deep hatred and simply shot at our backs. Well, of course, it wasn't for nothing, although at that time in the Red Army there was no such prevalence of banditism like we can observe now, but its signs could be seen easily.
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你们与被解放地区的人们的关系怎么样?
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NhL~gPr a`AB很不一样.例如,在保加利亚是兄弟般的.但到了匈牙利,则是明显的憎恨.匈牙利人很恨我们并从背后向我们射击.当然,也不是什么事没有,虽然那时在红军里没有现在这样的帮派横行,但多少可以看到苗子.
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And in your regiment?
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Well, our regiment was more or less cultured, and even then some similar excesses occurred.
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你们团呢?
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我们团多少有修养些,但同样有些过分的行为发生.
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Were they Slavs or Asians?
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Slavs, Slavs! Cossacks were especially savage.
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他们是斯拉夫人还是亚洲人?
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斯拉夫人,斯拉夫人!哥萨克人特别野蛮.
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What were you afraid of most of all at the front?
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We were afraid of death. Death was around us every day, every hour, and on all sides. You could sit quietly, drink tea, and a stray shell would fall on you. It was impossible to get used to that. It doesn't mean that we constantly were all jittery, that everyone sat, walked expecting death any minute. Death simply came or it didn't. It was scary during the massed air raids. People lost their minds from fear. The feeling was as if every bomb was falling straight at your head. It was horrible! This armada floats in the sky, two or three hundred aircraft, and bombs fall like hail, and all of them howl. Terror! I remember, there was one Nekrasov -- he almost went mad. When the air raid was over he couldn't be found anywhere. Then we found him in some trench. And he refused to come out! And what terror was in his eyes...!
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在前线你最怕什么?
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我们害怕死亡,死亡围绕着我们,每天,每小时,各个方向.你可能正静静地坐着,喝着茶,一颗"迷路"的炮弹就掉到你的头上.不可能适应这些,并不是说我们总是神经紧张:每个人无论坐还是走,随时都等着死亡.死神可能来临,也可能不来.大规模空袭时很吓人,人们惊恐失神,感觉好象每颗炸弹都在朝你头上砸,真是可怕!空中的机群,大概有二、三百架,炸弹象冰雹一样落下,呼啸着.恐怖!我记得有个叫内克拉索夫(Nekrasov)的--几乎快疯了.空袭结束后,到处都找RGO{|uf E7不到他.最后在一条战壕里找到了,但他拒绝出来!眼里满是恐惧……
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Were there any signs that people would believe in, that they would guard from death?
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People wore some talismans, crosses. There were people that could feel premonitions of mortal danger. For example, there was one Kondrat Hugulava in our unit, a Georgian, with a large mug, we were partners, he saved me from death twice, and, of course, himself also. The first time they sent us to establish communications with a rifle regiment. So we were walking in a communication trench, and he said: "We won't go further." I asked: "Why?" "Won't go, we'll stay here!" We stopped, and in several seconds a shell fell right into the trench beyond a curve! We would've been killed there! The second time we were quartered during a bombing in a ruined house. He told me: "Let's get out of here and move to a different corner." We moved -- a bomb slammed into the corner where we had been. Such strange things happened. Premonition... I didn't have it.
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是否有什么东西,人们相信会保护他们,免受)Eoq'*A{M K_死神召唤?
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人们戴一些辟邪物,十字架.有些人能感觉到死亡危险的预兆.比如,我们部队有个叫孔德拉特·胡古拉瓦(Kondrat Hugulava)的格鲁吉亚人,他有一个很大的杯子.我们是伙伴,他从死神那儿救了我两次,当然也救了他自己.第一次是他们派我们去和一个步兵团建立联络时,我们在一条通讯壕里走着,他说:"我们别再走了!"我问:"为什么?""别走了,我们就呆在这儿!"我们停下来.几秒钟后,一颗炮弹落到了离我们不到一个拐弯距离的通讯壕里!我们本来肯定会被炸死的!第二次是一次空袭时,我们躲在一处房子的废墟里.他对我说:"我们离开这儿,到别的地方去."我们离开了--一颗炸弹落到了我们刚呆过的角落.老有这样的怪事.预兆……我没有.
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How did you bury our killed soldiers?
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Rather diligently in the second half of the war. There were burial details.
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你们怎么样埋葬我们牺牲的战士?
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战争的后半段非常的小心仔细.有许多葬礼的描述.
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What personal firearms did you have?
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I had a carbine, an SMG, a German SMG, I carried it to the very end of the war, but I didn't kill anyone with my personal firearms. Of course, I did have to use them, fired somewhere...
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你有什么随身武器?
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我有一枝骑枪,一枝冲锋枪,一枝德国冲锋枪.我一直带着直到战争结束,但我没有用自己的武器杀过任何人.当然,有时必须使用它们射击……
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Right now you're holding a parachute from a German flare in your hands. Girls in Ukraine made blouses for themselves from such pieces of silk. There were no supplies of fabric back then. When a box of such rockets found its way to them, they cut off this silk, sewed it together, and it became a blouse.
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现在你手里拿的是一个德国照明弹上的降落伞.乌克兰的女孩们用这种丝绸做短衫,那时没有布料子供应.当她们得到一箱这样的火箭弹时,她们就把绸子割下来,缝在一起,就成了短上衣.
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Were there any women in your unit?
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Not in our unit. Only some signaler girls appeared, eventually all officers married them. When later there was a reunion of the regiment's veterans in Moscow, I saw these old signalers, who came as our regiment's officers' wives of many years. Back then I had thought they were simply whores, but it turned out these relationships lasted for the rest of their lives.
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你们部队有女兵吗?
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我们这儿没有.只有一些女信号兵露过面,最后都是军官娶了她们.后来在莫斯科有一次我们团的老兵团聚,我见到了这些老信号兵.她们已经成为我们团的军官们的妻子许多年了.那时我只觉得她们是娼妓,没想到这种关系居然持续了她们的一生.
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I finished the war here. Austria.
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What did you get your medal for?
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The medal is for my participation in the fighting for Vienna. The combat there did not involve a lot of destruction, but there were heavy casualties.
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你怎么得的奖章?
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这枚奖章是因为我参加了维也纳战役.那儿的战斗没有造成很大的破坏,但伤亡很大.
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And what was it for specifically? Which action?
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You know, decorating for specific actions was practiced rather rarely at the front. Especially in artillery units, it was impossible to connect a specific person to a given successful strike of a shell, therefore, if a person participated in combat, displayed the necessary persistence, courage, then at some point they started making things up, wrote something specific in the award sheet, but in reality all that was fantasies. And so I was well regarded in the regiment, so at some point they added me to the decoration list. Then started making things up: "In fighting for such and such block displayed courage, disregarded mortal danger..." Such folklore.
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是因为哪次行动得的?
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你知道,在前线,专为某次行动而发奖章的事儿很少见.尤其在炮兵部队,你不可能把一颗炮弹的战绩归到一个特定的人的头上.因此,如果一个人参加了战斗,表现出必要的顽强和勇气,然后有时他们就开始编故事,在获奖书上  q_q~Z };写些特别的东西,但实际上完全是幻想而已.因此我在团里评价不错,有时他们就把我加到获奖章者的名单里.他们开始胡编:"在这个或那个街区的战斗中,表现英勇,不顾死亡危险……"这样的传奇.
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You had been in a penal battalion? What was its structure? In what way could you "pay your debt"?
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I was put into a penal company where there were about 150 of us. We were only armed with rifles. We had neither SMG's nor machine guns. All officers were regular commanders, not prisoners, but the soldiers and NCO's -- prisoners. You could get out of the penal battalion alive either due to being wounded, or if you gained commander's approval in combat, and he recommended that your conviction be removed.
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你曾在一个惩戒营里吗?它的结构是怎么样的?你们用什么方式"还债"?
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我进了一个惩戒连,里面有一百五十人.我们只配备步枪,没有冲锋枪也没有机枪.所有的军官都是普通的正规军官,不是犯人.但士兵和军士是--犯人.你能够活着离开惩戒营,或因为负伤,或是在战斗中得到军官的认可,他提议勾销你的罪责.
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How did you manage to get out? Your conviction was removed because of a recommendation?
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Yes. It was at Taganrog on the Southern Front. I participated in reconnaissance-in-force. Since the situation was do-or-die, I diligently performed my combat task. It worked. Right after that it was recommended that my conviction be removed, and after several days I was called to the division HQ, to the court martial, where they removed my conviction. After that I was sent to a regular unit.
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你怎么离开的?因为军官的提议,勾销了你的罪责?
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是的,那是在南方战线的塔甘罗格(Taganrog).我参加了武装侦察,因为当时形势是非战即死,我努力地完成战斗任务,很成功.那之后,就被提议勾销了罪责.几天后被叫到师部,军事法庭,在那儿他们撤消了我的犯罪判决.然后我就到了常规部队.
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151st Rifle Division Court Martial Certificate
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Given to Senior Sergeant Semion Lvovich Aria to certify that for the bravery and courage exhibited in fighting fascism his conviction is removed by the court martial of the 151st Rifle Division on March 17, 1943.
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Chairman of the military court
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Military Jurist 3rd Rank
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Sorokin
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How long were you in the penal company?
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Three weeks.
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你在惩戒连里多久?
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三个星期.
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You talk about that time very sparingly. Why?
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I told a lot about that to Yuriy Ivanovich, and he insisted many times that I describe it. But every time I tried to start it, I realized that it was beyond me, because I had to describe both being in the penal company and everything connected with that, for which you have to have a considerable literary talent. To write about it superficially -- that's not serious. At some point, many years ago, one very famous professional writer, after listening to my stories on this topic, insisted that I start writing. I wrote it, he looked it over and said that it was rubbish, intelligentsia shit (in Russian (and Soviet) society, intelligentsia is a quasi-class made up of people who earn their bread by intellectual labor and are distinguished by manners and culture - trans. ). I've never tried it after that. The thing is that lengthy wandering around Kuban' preceded my appearance in the penal company. It so happened that I was left completely without papers and the sentence. We had one set of papers for the three of us, and the other two ran away without me, and I was left alone and without any papers. Everything that followed was like a wild adventure with an extremely disturbing outlook. And the period of time before the court martial, when I was in a cell for those sentenced to death, also requires description, it cannot be avoided, but it's very hard to describe it in the literary sense. So far I can't figure out how to do it.
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你很少谈及那个时期,为什么?
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有关这个我跟尤里·nG S;%F`65s7伊万诺维奇(Yuriy Ivanovich)谈了很多.他多次坚持要我写出来.但每一次我尝试写的时候,总发现它游离于我之外.因为我必须写在惩戒连里的事以及所有与此有关的事情,这要求你有相当的文学天赋.要肤浅表面地写--就不够严肃.有一次,那是许多年前,一个非常著名的职业作家,听了我的这些故事后,坚持让我写出来.我写了,他看完后,说这是垃圾,是"知识分子的"狗屎(在苏俄社会,"知识分子"是一个"类阶级",由那些靠智力劳动赚取面包并有着显著的做派和文化特征的人组成——原译注).那以后我再也没有试过.就是我进惩戒连以前在库班附近的那次致命的"游荡".我被丢在那儿,没有任何证件,(后来)是判决.我们三个有一套证件,另两个扔下我逃走了,没有留下任何证件.随后的每件事都象是次狂野的历险,有着特别烦人的前景.在上军事法庭前的那段时间,我就在关死刑犯的号子里,也要写出来,这无法避免.但从文学意义上很难写,到现在我也不知道怎么写.
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What was the most terrifying thing?
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An attack -- that's the hardest test. You know that you might get hit, but you have to keep moving toward it -- that's horrible! It was difficult to get up, and the feeling that most probably you wouldn't come back, that was also hard. Mortar shelling was terrifying and machine gun fire. There was enough of everything. Tracer fire, when it starts from above, and you only see the luminescent line lower, lower, falling toward you, now it will reach your level and cut you in half. Well, in short, war is war, what is there to talk about.
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-*Q4.LD|2n}s恐惧的事情是什么?
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一次进攻--那是最艰难的考验.你知道你可能被打中,但你还是必须冲锋--真可怕!很难适应,还有那种感觉很可能你再也回不来了,也很艰难.迫击炮弹很可怕,还有机枪火力.什么都不缺少.曳光弹从上面射来时,你只看到发光的弹迹越来越低,直朝你落,就要打到你,把你劈成两半.简言之,战争就是战争,有什么可谈的.
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And then you found yourself in the Guards mortars?
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No, not immediately. I was sent to an infantry unit from the penal company, in the infantry unit I was transferred to the 2nd Reserve Army Regiment, located in the city of Azov, to where I walked from the front line. There they sent me to a detachment of candidates to the officers' school, where they would teach me to become a tank commander. But I had already known what it was like to be a tank commander, that's why I deserted from there. I simply ran away.
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然后你就在近卫迫击炮部队了?
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不,不是马上.从惩戒连出来,我被派到一个步兵部队.在步兵部队里,我被转到后备陆军团.在亚速市(Azov),我从前线一直步行到那儿.在那儿他们安排我到一个军官学校的候选人分队里,要训练我成为一名坦克车长.但我已经知道做坦克车长是怎么回事,因此我离开了那儿,跑了.
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What does it mean to be a tank commander?
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It's disgusting. It's the same as being a soldier, but you have to be responsible for everybody on top of that. I didn't want to be an officer at all. That's why when they came to pick out people to some artillery unit, I simply left with them. Threw my knapsack into the truck and left. I could find myself in front of a firing squad in those times for doing that, but it turned out well. And so I remained in that regiment. Then, when we arrived to the front line, it turned out to be a Katiusha regiment. That was lucky! They fed us well there, dressed us excellently, the casualties were significantly lower. I was extremely happy that I had become a part of such an excellent unit.
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成为一名坦克车长意味着什么?
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很讨厌的.和做一名士兵一样,但你得为车上的所有人负责.我一点也不想做军官.因此当他们来挑人到炮兵部队去时,我就跟他们走了.把背包扔到卡车上就走了.当时我这样做很可能会"享受"行刑队的待遇,但我没事儿.因此,我就呆在那个团里.然后,当我们到达前线时,发现这是个"喀秋莎"团.真是幸运!我们吃得很好,穿着很棒,伤亡也很低.我非常高兴成为这样一支优秀部队的一份子.
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