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![]() 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com ![]() 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com Alexandr Borisovich Krasnov: I was born in 1922, in Kiev. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 亚历山大 鲍里索维奇 克拉斯诺夫Краснов Александр Борисович 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 于1922年生于基辅 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — Who were your parents, what was their position in society? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —能介绍一下您的父母么,他们都是什么人? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com When I was born, they were “no one”. Father became a high-positioned Party official. He was arrested and held in custody while 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com investigation was underway. Even though he was not found guilty and set free, he got angry at Party, refused to work as an official, and became a teacher at the university… He had a long life. Mom was a head of city healthcare service. What for am I telling you all this… 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com I left school prematurely, from 9th grade I went to the military school, because I was afraid to come too late there. 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In High Schools cadets trained for three-four years, while in flight school I trained 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com for only eight month… 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —您是怎么从军校毕业的呢? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 我九年级的时候就已经在航空俱乐部学习了。我的梦想是在蓝天翱翔,因此我在1940年离开了学校,进入楚胡耶夫高级飞行学校学习。那所学校本来是培养飞行员的,学员毕业以后会被授予军官军衔。但当年十二月发布了一条0253号命令,我至今仍能记得其内容。你们肯定也知道:铁木辛哥命令将飞行学校从高级飞行学校中分离出来。在高级飞行学校需要训练三到四年时间,而当时我在飞行学校只学习了八个月。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — What about mandatory commission? Your father was in prison… 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —那肃反委员会呢?你父亲当时还在监狱里吧 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com By this time he was already released and fully rehabilitated. But a bit earlier I was expelled out of aero club because of him. He was thought 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com of as people enemy, how could I become a pilot? As long as dad was under investigation, I and my mom were suffering. I worked as a turner 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com student at the plant, and we lived very hard. Dad was in prison for almost a year, proving his innocence. 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When I flew out in I-16 myself, war 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com broke out. Well, Chuguev is pretty far from borderline, but Germans were moving very fast, so an order came to school, to pick out best cadets and present them to state commission for state exams. We all were eager to get to the front, you understand… Thanks’ God I was flying pretty well, so I passed state exams and was accepted to this group. We graduated as sergeants. Sergeant had two triangles. As I was good at flying I received a senior sergeant — one more triangle. I had them until 1943, while around me were lieutenants… 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 我在航空俱乐部飞的就是乌-2。但我记不太清楚了。我在乌-2上训练的时间太短了。然后就是乌特-4。等我可以开始用伊-16放单飞的时候,战争就爆发了。楚胡耶夫离国境线相当远,但德国人的推进速度实在太快了。因为上级给学校下达了命令,要求挑选出最优秀的学生并送至国家考试委员会以备使用。我们当时都非常渴望奔赴前线,你明白那种情绪吧……谢天谢地我当时飞行水平很好,因此我通过了考试委员会的考核。当时毕业生的军衔是中士,中士的军衔符u)z6kI C号是两个三角形。但是因为我的水平比较高,因为军衔是上士—多一个三角形。到1943年时我才被晋升为少尉。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com After me, there were two sets of pilots graduated as sergeants. Then they were graduated as Lieutenants again. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com I was not lucky, because I stuck in ZAPs. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com At first I was sent to ZAP in Kuybyshev at Kryazh airfield, where I was supposed to be trained to fly LaGG-3. But there were no planes, 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com we had only theoretical education, so pilots, and sergeants as I was, spent there several month. I asked to be transferred to old I-16s. I was sent to another ZAP to the North. But by that time there were American Tomahawks instead of I-16s. I began training to fly Tomahawks. It was very bad, heavy plane. I barely escaped from there to 20th ZAP to Novosibirsk, where I finally met Yaks and mastered it. Only then I made it to war. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 在我之后的两届学生毕业的时候都是士官。而在他们之后,毕业生的军衔又变回了尉官。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 我不是很走运,因为我被分配到了预备队航空兵团。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 最开始我被分到了驻扎在古比雪夫附近的卡亚日机场的飞行团,在那里我接受了驾驶拉格-3飞机的训练。但是那里没有飞机,我们只能进行理论学习。因为飞行员和我们这些菜鸟们在那里等了好几个月。上级命令我转飞老式的伊-16。后来我又被调到了北部的另外一个预备队航空兵团。但是当时那个团开始用美国援助的P40“战斧”来(y%L/(F?w取代伊-16。所以我又开始改装怕P40的训练。那是一种性能很差,很沉的飞机。因此后来我又从那个团跑到了在新西伯利亚的第20预备队航空兵团,最终在那里我开始飞行雅克战斗机,并最终熟练掌握。从那时候开始我才算真正的投入战争。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — At which Yak types you flew? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com Yak-1 in ZAP. Later I flew Yak-7 and Yak-9. With an index “R” — reconnaissance, Yak-9r. Main part of the war I spent in 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com reconnaissance air regiment, which had an ARPGKKA abbreviation — Aviation Reconnaissance regiment of supreme command of Red Army. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com There were only three such regiments in whole Soviet Union. I was a fighter-reconnaissance pilot. But I was sent to 519th regiment first. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —您飞的是哪个型号的雅克? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 在预备队飞行团飞的是雅克-1,后来又飞过雅克-7和雅克-9。雅克-9R型,字母“R”代表侦察型的意思。我在战争中所经历的岁月主要都是在侦查航空飞行团里度过的,最高统帅部直属侦查航空团的字母缩写是ARPGKKA。在整个苏联红军中只有三个侦查航空兵团。我当时是个战斗/侦察机飞行员。但我最开始被调到了519团。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — How did you get there? You were picked out by “Merchants”? Or you were sent there from ZAP? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com A group of 10 or 12 pilots was sent to the front after finishing training course. Near Kursk, to 16th Air Army. We were directed to 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com different divisions and regiments. I was alone sent to 519th regiment. It was in May or June 1943. 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —你是怎么去的那呢?被战斗部队的接兵干部挑走的?还是说直接被调过去的? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 有一批大约是10-12名飞行员在训练结束以后被派往前线。在库尔斯克附近的空军第16集团军。我们被分配到了不同的师和团。我被派到了第519团,那是1943年五六月的事情。 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — How you were accepted in the regiment? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com With neglect: "Neither can fly, nor shoot". 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com —你在那个团的待遇如何? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com 被忽略了“即飞不起来,也打不了仗。” 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com — Such attitude was common only in this regiment, or everywhere? 浪漫烛光 www.langmanzg.com
Everywhere. We were called "yellow mouths": we had no combat practice in ZAPs, two-three flights to the “zone” for aerobatics, one- |
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作者信息 | 主题: 【卫国战争飞行员回忆】亚历山大 鲍里索维奇 克拉斯诺夫21379 | ||||
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2010-10-30 20:38:15
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作者信息 | 主题: 【卫国战争飞行员回忆】亚历山大 鲍里索维奇 克拉斯诺夫21380 | ||||
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2010-10-30 20:45:02
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